© 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Putting Iron Man in Mark 1 against Thor from Endgame is putting Tony in some seriously deep water. Infinity War Thor was far stronger than fat thor. Thanos' greatest punch with the power stone is an average strike for Clark. Round 1: Thor cannot use his lightning powers. Superman fodderises them. It was never your source of strength." We see that the Avengers still took on missions as seen in the conference call, which he may have been a part of. vs. Thor laughs in relief, proclaiming "I'm still worthy!" He got overpowered by captain marvel easily. Before in the Trinity vs Thanos the first part, Thor took on-screen 9 attacks from Thanos, only a bit fewer than Hulk in IW. Take away those toys and his fat arse gets whooped by a one-armed Thanos. Fat Thor, yes, he let himself go and is out of practice, however as he is 1500 years old, relative to us, is equivalent to a bodybuilder being out of practice for only 1 or 2 weeks. But in every film he gets tagged all characters do, there is no way he’s putting out enough damage to KO or kill Thanos without taking one of the weapons and it would take him a while to down Thor too. @heisenberg57: He's an Asgardian, he can handle that. This is Farmer Thanos, I am not claiming that Thor would beat any other Thanos. @dreadbringer: By fat Thor do you mean pre becoming worthy / or battle armour? TO DA DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHH • 1 year ago @dreadbringer: Thor saying that at the time was a massive red flag that he was putting up a front compared to his real emotions and broken state, Hulk most of all understands it. He didn't know the weapon can counteract the Infinity Gauntlet power that his blast didn't work at all. That was the prime Thor. Thor wins, since he can use lightning punches and they will eventually put Thanos down. Ok, so the movie portrays Thor as being fat. That leaves a significant question, given that Thor: Ragnarok confirms once more that Thor remains the God Of Thunder even after the destruction of Mjolnir and it's not enough to suggest that it's only down to his failure to kill Thanos first time. All Thor need to do is using lightning punches. He has also an edge in term of speed since Thanos was very weakened in that scene. In Infinity War, when he was in prime shape with only stormbreaker, he almost killed Thanos who had all 6 stones. In Avengers: Endgame, when Thor goes back in time and meets his mother, Frigga, in Asgard, the God of Thunder believes himself to be unworthy. He effectively sabotages himself to reflect that failure, accepting the failure in a tangible way that further reminds him of it. Thor needs a hammer to win this. So I can see both sides of this argument. Team. Mahvel baby 38% . Thanos > IW Thor > Carol > Fat Thor.. @hulk_like_fire: Against 5 years of junk food, binge drinking, and video games? © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. He believes himself no longer a hero, no longer capable of the same feats (and his fellow Avengers seem to believe the same), and crucially, because of how he has reacted - which Thor knows is down to Thanos, no matter the outward rejection of the accusation (which is why he's triggered by his name) - no longer mentally strong enough to be worthy. He’s wins if he doesn’t decide to randomly give up being Superman. In his own perception of self, the mental fragility that led to his transformation also suggests to him that he shouldn't be able to wield Mjolnir. Anyways, Superman wins they cannot touch him in a million years. He’s not weaker, if he pulled a Ragnarok he’d steal the spotlight from Tony and Cap, that’s all. @juicers: he still resisted CM. Thanos only loses if he allows Thor to beat him to death but since this is a fight, Thanos will resist fiercely. They aren't hitting him for one and two they cant stand his punches. Thor's belief in his loss of worthiness is confirmed in the Asgard sequence of Endgame. Hela dropped him after one slash to the gut. He was ready to destroy Thanos, but that one miscalculation of not going for the head broke him, hence his subsequent transformation to fat Thor. The go-to source for comic book and superhero movie fans. Thor's self-image is very much linked to his feats and his unique powers, which is precisely why the huge threat to that status involved in his failure to defeat Thanos results in a destabilization of his body. It's a well known fact that a long term unhealthy diet and inactive lifestyle ruins your athletic function. Well, without armor, because like I said, they get stripped of every equipment they have. He beats Fat Thor in a hard fight due to speed, but he is less experienced and weaker/less durable. @chaoselement: then why did Thor in Endgame get KO'ed by two / three blows from Thanos while his former self was able to withstand a power stone concentrated to his face from the same Mad Titan and then still able to continue fighting? Plus he punches harder and is stronger than them. Clark's punches would kill him, he punched steppanwolf with a baby jab and it still launched him hundreds of yards and through an armored wall. You don't get a pot belly like that in 2 weeks, And on the other end, you're just brushing off the possibility of Rogers staying active and training within the 5 years. Completely unexpected. Thor is able to do massive shockwaves, and to one-shot the Bifrost bridge. Press J to jump to the feed. @dreadbringer: It matters because he was completely unstable and was scared and panicked at even the mention of Thanos while by the time he get battle ready he was moslty whole again and ready to take him on. @rebake: Thor can still summon lightning. Thanos still has his right arm fully functional and his left arm is weaker but not unusable. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/movie-tv/russo-bros-say-thor-was-stronger-than-ever-at-the-end-of-endgame/84874486/. Thor would just spam lightning till he fries him. Thanos' greatest punch with the power stone is an average strike for Clark. Why does that matter? That was one soft punch, the guy tapped Batman and launched him down an alley with a TAP! Yes, they are skillful, but they cannot keep up with someone who operates in a different speed range to them. When Thor reaches his lowest point and also his most physically different and he is effectively rebranded "Fat Thor", Thor's mentality shifts too. ...So Superman can send a character as durable as CM (who's only a couple of steps down from IW Thor) flying and KO her with one hit? From almost the moment Thor meets the rest of the Avengers - but particularly in Thor: Ragnarok and Infinity War when he clashes with Star-Lord - his arrogance and his self-belief is tied very much to his status as a hero. So there is nothing he could do. Also, keep in mind that people use weapons differently. Just as Thor is stopped from using the second gauntlet to reverse the snap because he is in no fit state - referring to his mental state rather than his physique - but Thor's belief in his unworthiness is absolutely linked to how he looks. How much more comprehensive can it get?! It is, tragically, a vicious cycle that parallels real life mental health problems. Thanos beat Thor. Was it here? Thanos fought off Thor, Iron Man, and Captain America (with Mjolnir) simultaneously. Thor dies, Thanos, kurse, and Ultron had him punch drunk after three hits. Mark 1 had one single purpose; getting Tony out of the cave in one piece. Like, a lot. CA has better fighting skills than Thor so he used Mjolnir better than Thor in Endgame. It won't be easy like in full health, but I do see Thanos taking this since Thor doesn't have his most effective tools against Thanos. Skinny thor has stormbreaker. His fat self, despite wielding both the hammer and stormbreaker, was shown to be totally useless against an unarmed Thanos. He still ended up getting his ass kicked when thanos recovered, so honestly this whole topic, while entertaining, is unneeded. Lol. Fat Thor didnt even summon powerful lightning, didn't fly, didn't show any skills, it was like he was a noob at fighting, which shouldn't be the case, I mean, you saw Cap fuck up Thanos with the lightning, so why didn't fat thor do the same? In the end we can speculate things base on the evidence presented in the movies. He's basically done. Or do you mean as he was in the final battle but without weapons? Use your common sense. DeanDinosaur6 6 mo 10 d . He is suffering from PTSD triggered by that moment, which is hinted at when Thanos' name is mentioned, he flinches and his demeanor shifts darkly. RajinKabir 4 mo 13 d . Then they also say that Thanos was caught off guard when Thor arrived and blasted him that he doesn't know what he was dealing that time, but they also confirmed Stormbreaker specifically can counteract Infinity Gauntlet powers.